Bill O’Reilly versus John Jay?

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One of our founding fathers, a guy by the name of John Jay, was very open with his belief in Jesus and the Bible. He also happened to be, at one time or another, the president of the Congress, a diplomat, the author of the Federalist Papers, the original Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, and the governor of New York.  That’s quite a resume. He once wrote:  “The Bible will also inform (people) that our gracious Creator has provided for us a Redeemer in whom all the nations of the earth should be blessed – that this Redeemer has made atonement ‘for the sins of the whole world,’ and thereby reconciling the Divine justice with the Divine mercy, has opened a way for our redemption and salvation;”

You don’t hear that from the Supreme Court very often, even less from the governor of New York, but John Jay believed in a Creator, in Jesus’ sacrifice for our sins, and in the need for everyone to be forgiven and saved from judgment.   God’s judgment.

These days, even conservatives and professing Christians like Bill O’Reilly won’t go that far.  Recently O’Reilly scoffed at those who believe the stories in the Bible actually happened, and added “…if you’re judgmental, and demand that people believe the way that you do, that’s a very bad thing as we see with the jihad movement.”

Being judgmental leads to jihad?  That’s a bit much. Are we going to outlaw everyone who challenges what we believe?  Does a jury feel threatened by lawyers who argue their case forcefully?  Don’t get me wrong, O’Reilly is correct that he is entitled to his opinion.  Maybe that’s all he was trying to say.  After all, it is true no one can force you to have real faith in God.  However there is nothing jihadist about arguing over what is true, and what isn’t true.  We do have the right, and the duty, to make our case because if it’s true, then it’s incredibly important.

I would argue that O’Reilly is missing the point here.  God can make demands and sit in judgment because He is God and this is His creation.  That’s the reality.  The apostle John, wrote:  “And this is (God’s) command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.” I John 3:23 (NIV).  The apostle Paul preached in Acts, “now (God) commands all people everywhere to repent.  For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.” –Acts 17:30-31 (NIV)

This isn’t about a particular religious institution or particular tradition.  This is about getting right with the creator God to whom we must give an account.  He has set a day when he will judge the world it says, and Jesus is God’s sacrifice for the sins of everyone who has ever lived.  The Bible here presented this as the reality of the situation, claiming Jesus is God’s way out of this mess, just like 100-years prior to the flood, a man was building an ark for anyone who was interested in being saved.

Of course, no one thought it would really happen then, and most people today don’t think it happened at all.  Bill O’Reilly is one of them.  Nevertheless, there ARE massive deposits left in geologic formations stretching across the planet, and huge fossil fields of life that were buried by water in an instant, and fossilized trees with their small branches and bark torn away, and fossils of sea floor life found in the center of continents in the highest elevations, etc…  If the flood was real, it’s exactly what you’d expect to find.  You are free to believe an alternative explanation, but the Flood explanation works pretty well.  If it’s true, then maybe John Jay had a point.

The Bible does inform us of a Creator and a Redeemer.  We learn of God’s way of forgiving and saving us, of making us right with Him.  We learn how He’s done it in the past.  The world might not want to take it so literally or seriously, but Jesus Himself believed in hell.  Jesus Himself believed in the Flood, and Jesus Himself spoke about judgment –then died on a cross to save us from it all.  Why would he go to so much trouble, if he wasn’t saving us from anything?

I believe Jesus.  He’s my ark. O’Reilly? Not so much.

3 thoughts on “Bill O’Reilly versus John Jay?

  1. Hi Brian, Is there any way you can post your CrazyPastor.com blogs so that people can share them on their Facebook?  I don’t know much about how these things work, but you have a lot of very intelligent things to share and you have a very easy-going writing style.  I just think your blogs should get out to a wide audience. God Bless, Gail White

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    Respond to this post by replying above this line New post on CrazyPastor.Com Bill O’Reilly versus John Jay?by CP One of our founding fathers, a guy by the name of John Jay, was very open with his belief in Jesus and the Bible. He also happened to be, at one time or another, the president of the Congress, a diplomat, the author of the Federalist Papers, the original Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, and the governor of New York.  That’s quite a resume. He once wrote:  “The Bible will also inform (people) that our gracious Creator has provided for us a Redeemer in whom all the nations of the earth should be blessed – that this Redeemer has made atonement ‘for the sins of the whole world,’ and thereby reconciling the Divine justice with the Divine mercy, has opened a way for our redemption and salvation;” You don’t hear that from the Supreme Court much these days, even less from the governor of New York, but John Jay believed in a Creator, in Jesus’ sacrifice for our sins, and in the need for everyone to be forgiven and saved from judgment.   God’s judgment. These days, even conservatives and professing Christians like Bill O’Reilly won’t go that far.  Recently O’Reilly scoffed at those who believe the stories in the Bible actually happened, and added “…if you’re judgmental, and demand that people believe the way that you do, that’s a very bad thing as we see with the jihad movement.” Being judgmental leads to jihad?  That’s a bit much. Are we going to outlaw everyone who challenges what we believe?  Does a jury feel threatened by lawyers who argue their case forcefully?  Don’t get me wrong, O’Reilly is correct that he is entitled to his opinion.  Maybe that’s all he was trying to say.  After all, it is true no one can force you to have faith in God.  However there is nothing jihadist about arguing over what is true, and what isn’t true.  We do have the right, and the duty, to make our case because if it’s true, then it’s incredibly important. I would agree with the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court that God is real and in a position of authority.  God can actually make demands and sit in judgment because He is God and this is His creation.  That’s the reality.  The apost

  2. Brian, Please take the time to watch this. It is very informative, and scary to see how our yoouth is being influenced by mainstream secular music. In His service, Gail

  3. It’s easier to put it to the back of our minds that way, dismiss antiquated ideas of hell and judgment. But Jesus Himself believed in hell. Jesus Himself believed in the Flood, and Jesus Himself spoke about judgment –then died on a cross to save us from it all. Why would he go to so much trouble, if he wasn’t saving us from anything?

    Right on, Pastor Brian.

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